Dreams of Mirza
Follower put Mirza in hot waters
A confused person, perhaps a follower of Mirza drew our attention to the beautiful writings of Mirza on the meanings of word “Bap” in Urdu or Father in English.
Mirza wrote these beautiful explanations of the word Father in response to the Christians who off course use “Father” for God and “son” for Isa As (Jesus).
Obnoxious writings of Mirza
We produce another masterpiece from the writings of Mirza.
Those who have concocted this lie against Hadarat Messih AS that he As used to call Khuda Talla (again the horrid word used by Mirza) Father. And that he actually believed the Almighty to be his As Father. They have invented a false and dirty allegation against Ibne Mariam AS. Can an intelligent person think that Hadarat Messih AS could commit such error. This word in it’s literally meanings is such a dirty word, which shows weakness and helplessness from every angle. Same word Ibne Mariam AS would use for Allah SWT? Isa Ibne Mariam did not have this right to create these meanings; meanings which so rude that they are showing illiteracy and/lack of knowledge.
The dictionary didn’t give any more importance to the meaning of the word father then the male who lodge his seed in the ovary of a female. The seed then becomes another living creature due to the miracle of another being (Allah SWT). The one who lodged the seed would be called “father”.
There is no trace of nurturing or sign of love in this word. For example a Ram mount a Ewe and lodge his seed inside her; or a bull mount the cow and after completing the act of sexuality ran away without thinking that a calf may be born. Or a Boar who is full of carnival desires, he performed this act over and over without thinking that due to his repeated act of carnival desires many piglets may be born.
What a beautiful language Mirza have used for a natural act, which is part of living beings life on planet earth. But Mirza just couldn’t resist bringing his xxx rated narration in to the meanings of the word father.
Mirza claim he is like son of God
Did Mirza follow his own advice? Evidence from Tadkirah;
It is a common knowledge that the concept of trinity in Christianity revolves around three pronged God heads, The Father, the son and the Holy Spirit. If we pay close attention to above quoted alleged ilhams they represent the same three God heads involved in the Christians concept of trinity.
1- Here clearly Allah SWT is allegedly calling Mirza like a son, therefore, He SWT becomes like his “Father” (nauzobillah).
2- Mirza allegedly received the ilhams from Allah SWT “you are to me like my Son” therefore; he became the “son” (nauzobillah).
3- But Mirza didn’t stop there he also included in these ilhams another sentence to complete the trinity. He writes that he allegedly received the ilham” I along with the Spirit am with you and the members of your family.”
Proof, all the three God heads are presented by Mirza Kazab. He had the gal to accuse the Christians for something he himself introduced deceptively. Is this “true Islam” this kazzab wants to introduce to his followers? Lanatullah alal kazabeen.
There should be absolutely no doubt on the intentions of Mirza in this set of ilahms. He started it with an attack on the concept of “Tauheed” by claiming the alleged revelations that Allah SWT disclosed to him that he is to Allah SWT like “My Unity” and “My Uniqueness”.
Mirza defended by the follower
One of Mirza’s follower Mr. Naeem M Memon in response to the book 3 in 1 has written following incredible piece, his book is very proudly displayed on official Qadiani’s website.
While one does not accept that this is a perfectly accurate translation of Hadhrat Ahmad'sas original statement, one still calls upon every honest and sincere person to read this passage, albeit not a faithful reproduction of the original and truly determine if there is any claim of Divinity contained herein. In the first instance, one draws one's attention to the following passages of this citation:
1. I saw in one of my contemplative visions [kashf] that I am God myself and believed that I am the same.
2. In this state I submitted that we need a new system and a new sky.
3. Then the state of contemplative vision converted into inspiration and I started muttering: 'These are inspirations I am enlightened with by God Almighty'.
These passages in the hostile publications are an admission that this entire scenario was being observed by Hadhrat Ahmadas in a state of vision. Now, every rational human being, whether a believer or not, would accept that a person who sees something in a dream or a vision cannot be held responsible for it since at that precise moment when a dream or vision is being observed, one's faculties are not in one's possession at all. If Abdul Hafeez refuses to accept this explanation then one would ask him as to how would he reconcile Hadhrat Muhammad'ssa dream or vision in which he saw himself wearing two gold bangles on his wrist when Muslim men have been forbidden to wear gold. Would he care to state that God forbid, the Prophet of Islamsa contravened the laws of Islam contrary to the explicit command of God?
We are absolutely horrified from the logic displayed by Mr. Memon. He is defending Mirza in this incredibly callous and downright obnoxious way. Before we proceed further it is helpful to present a Hadiths from Bukhari.
False dreams are from Satan
Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 87 115:
Narrated Abu Qatada:
The Prophet said, "A good dream that comes true is from Allah, and a bad dream is from Satan, so if anyone of you sees a bad dream, he should seek refuge with Allah from Satan.”
According to the Hadith traditions there are two sources of dreams; the true dreams are from Allah SWT and bad or false are from Satan. Coming back to incredible logic by Mr. Memon, he says that the recipient of the dreams should not be held responsible for the dreams he has, his faculties during the sleep are not under his control. We accept this explanation from Mr. Memon, but would he accept the ramifications of his statement? Let us elaborate it. We already produced Hadiths describing two sources of two kinds of dreams.
1-He says Mirza is not responsible for these dreams, fine, but then Satan must be responsible for all the dreams Mirza had which are so demonstratively against the teachings of the Holy Quran.
2- Qadianis according to the logic used by Mr. Memon have to accept that the teachings of Mirza should be rejected out of hand; they were inspired by the Satan.
3- We have already demonstrated fraud and deceptions of this cult in compilation and translation of tadkirah. The explanation of Mr. Memon then renders this alleged book of divine revelations useless. There is plenty of internal evidence to prove it to be so.
Quranic evidence against those who try to have a share in the Divinity of Allah SWT
The dreams of Mirza can not be from Allah SWT, because Allah SWT does not share His Divinity or His Unfathomable knowledge with anyone. Quran is full of such verses, where Allah SWT decreed in very clear and precise manner that non share His Divinity.
We produce few of such examples from the Holy Quran. First the warning to those who accept the claims of false claimants that they are exercising a bad judgment.
Then the warnings that on the Day of the Judgment they will suffer the consequences of their actions. These false claimants could not save them from the torment await them due to their foolishness that led them astray, by following the lies and concoctions of these Claimants.
The foolish defender of Mirza accept Mirza is a Kazzab
As is the practice by the Qadianis, Mr. Memon straight away jumped his gun and attacks the dreams of Prophet Muhammad SAW. All we can say is that Mr. Memon is extremely foolish to point to this dream mentioned in the Bukhari. He is doing a disservice to his cult by pointing to something which destroys the credibility of Mirza completely. We are just amazed how this cult allows people like Memon to write on their official web site. We produce the Hadiths from Bukhari, which is referred by Mr. Memon.
5.659: Narrated Ibn `Abbas: Musailima Al-Kadhdhab came during the lifetime of the Prophet and started saying, "If Muhammad gives me the rule after him, I will follow him." And he came to Medina with a great number of the people of his tribe. Allah's Apostle went to him in the company of Thabit bin Qais bin Shammas, and at that time, Allah's Apostle had a stick of a date-palm tree in his hand. When he (i.e. the Prophet ) stopped near Musailima while the latter was amidst his companions, he said to him, "If you ask me for this piece (of stick), I will not give it to you, and Allah's Order you cannot avoid, (but you will be destroyed), and if you turn your back from this religion, then Allah will destroy you. And I think you are the same person who was shown to me in my dream, and this is Thabit bin Qais who will answer your questions on my behalf." Then the Prophet went away from him. I asked about the statement of Allah's Apostle : "You seem to be the same person who was shown to me in my dream," and Abu Huraira informed me that Allah's Apostle said, "When I was sleeping, I saw (in a dream) two bangles of gold on my hands and that worried me. And then I was inspired Divinely in the dream that I should blow on them, so I blew on them and both the bangles flew away. And I interpreted it that two liars (who would claim to be prophets) would appear after me. One of them has proved to be Al Ansi and the other, Musailima."
Mr. Memon well done. This Hadiths is actually not use of Gold Bangles at all, those bangles were actually blown away in the dream of Prophet Muhammad SAW but it is on the topic of false claimants of Prophethood after Prophet Muhammad SAW.
All we can say Mr. Memon that you are a true follower of Mirza Al-Kadhdhab. Mr. Memon’s incredible stupidity, dishonesty and lies are not limited to above, one of our Muslim brother has pointed to another of Mr. Memon’s lies on a discussion forum. We produce another quote from Mr. Memon’s response to the book 3 in 1.
Follower defend Mirza’s English revelations
This unending tirade against Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmadas by the author of Two in One continues relentlessly and for some reason or the other, Abdul Hafeez quotes some revelations vouchsafed unto Hadhrat Ahmadas without actually stating what he finds objectionable about them. In the absence of him stating his objections, one can only assume that he probably objects to these being vouchsafed unto Hadhrat Ahmadas in a language other than Arabic. In that event, one would ask him as to what would he make of the following revelation vouchsafed unto Hadhrat Muhammadsa in Persian:
Mr. Memon despite writing following revelation vouchsafed unto Prophet Muhammad SAW did not provide evidence of these alleged Persian revelations in this article. No Quadiani despite constant reminders could produce the evidence for these Persian revelations to Prophet Muhammad SAW. This is the true caliber and motives of Qadiani’s so called Scholars. They introduce bald face lies in their articles and books, following in the footstep of Mirza Al-Kadhahab.
No Mr. Memon, we Muslims don’t only have the objection to the fact that Mirza received revelations in the language other then his own mother tongue/language, this practice is in direct conflict with the Quranic verses; but we also have proofs how did Mirza concocted these English/Hebrew Ilhams. We were saved the excruciating pain to read the German ilhams by refusal of Mirza to M Sadiq. Did you notice Mr. Memon; the dreams were seen by Sadiq and not by your Mirza Al-Kadhahab. It seems in the Qadiani’s dream factory dreams of every one were divine.
But unfortunately for you and your cult, proofs displayed in our previous articles, show very clearly that Mirza’s followers knew he was not truthful, otherwise how some one in his right mind would give this advice to a so called, self proclaimed Prophet that I should start learning languages? Who was receiving the ilhams, the fake Prophet or the blind and crooked follower? Your fake prophet has stooped to the unimaginable depth by presenting his alleged revelations to a Hindu boy for correction. It seems Mirza Al-Kadhahab didn’t have confidence on himself. He knew the extent of his knowledge of English language. English he learned through the books given to him by people like Sadiq.
How someone like Zafarullah in his right mind, could change the English ilhams of Mirza and correct his blunders, without realizing the lies and concoctions of Mirza? Or do you accept that god of Mirza made those mistakes? Liars like you have no where to run.
The problem for you Qadianis is that most of Mirza’s so called revelations are against the clear cut decrees in the holy Quran. For example Holy Quran clearly decreed that Christians should desist from attributing divinity to anyone beside Allah SWT.
Quranic evidence against Trinity and Mirza
Allah SWT clearly decreed that He SWT is utterly remote from having a son, but Mirza writes he allegedly received revelations from Allah SWT calling him “You are to me like my son”. So whose words should we Muslim believe? Yes, you got it right; there is not much of a choice between the Holy Quran and books of Mirza Al-Kadhahab. We have already exposed numerous lies of Mirza and we will continue to do so.
Mirza’s dreams couldn’t have come from Allah SWT but only from Satan, the accursed, as per Hadiths traditions quoted. Mirza the grand liar of Qadian have used lies, deceptions, fraud all his life. He has written against the Quranic teachings and clear cut commands. He can not be trusted; no sensible and honest person can have any other thought but to discard a discredited person like Mirza out of hand. His followers are following in his footsteps and writing lies and committing frauds.
This is a common practice adopted by the followers of Mirza that when they introduce a lie or something which they knew would land them in the hot water, they always quote from the books of others who have made similar claims. We have only this to say on this practice of Qadianis. First of all most of the quotes are deceptively produce; they are either out of context or just picked up from the middle of a longer narrations, had full narration been produced would change the emphasis completely. But we are of the opinion, it does not matter, if someone has made similar claims; they all will suffer the same consequences mentioned in the Holy Quran. No Muslim is above the decrees of the Holy Quran. No one is more important then Prophet Muhammad SAW, without exceptions.
We leave those Qadianis who still have a chance to redeem themselves with these Quranic verses.
May Allah SWT open your eyes before it is too late to repent.
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