A person using the identity as Muslim1, to whom I have given respect in the past because he claims he is a Muslim, a person who in the past kept quite on many of the comments made on that forum, making fun of the Holy Quran, the personage of Prophet Muhammad SAW and the religion of Islam; hurting the feelings of the Muslims around the World, has opened a thread on Ahmedi.org displaying a page from Mirza Kazzab’s book Braheen.
He only recently had started to close threads or stop such discussions after I made the comments on the forum against the Islamic and Muslims hating policies of Ahmedi.org. As a result, the hypocrite administration of Ahmeid.org decided to ban my participation, on the false pretences. I am exposing the real purpose and policies of Ahmedi.org to spread atheism amongst the followers of Mirza and perhaps in the Muslim participants too.
Muslim1 asked this question from the Qadianis;
“Please read the page below from MGA's Brahin-e-Ahmadiyya. MGA is referring to a "verse" in the Qur'an. Can Qadianis show us where in the Qur'an is this verse located?”
I don’t know if any Qadiani can but I a Muslim surely can;
17:8 Your Sustainer may well show mercy unto you; but if you revert [to sinning], We shall revert [to chastising you]. And [remember this:] We have ordained that [in the hereafter] hell shall close upon all who deny the truth.
Mr. Muslim1, this verse is in the holy Quran alright, the only thing which Mirza twisted is to allege that this Verse is for Prophet Isa As second coming as Mirza. This verse has absolutely nothing to do with Isa As therefore, the lie of Mirza is quite apparent, another lame and false attempt to show that his advent was mentioned in the Holy Quran.
What is shameful is that this Site Ahmedi.org attracts the Muslims on the false premise that it is exposing the lies of Cozen of Qadian. But in reality this site is used to ridicule Islam and Muslims on regular basis. This site is full of ex-Qadianis, who have absolutely no love for the Holy Quran, Prophet Muhammad Saw and the religion of Islam, but a mouth piece of atheist propaganda.
It is such a shame that people with no knowledge of the religion of Islam and the Holy Quran writes like they are authority on the Holy Quran or Islam. This is another example of such false scholar of the Holy Quran, by posing the question without having the thorough knowledge of the Holy Quran, it is a dangerous practice. But unfortunately, many are dipping their hands in to the realm they are not qualified or knowledgeable to do so.
By asking a wrong question, by saying that Mirza invented this verse and challenging Qadiani to provide the evidence from the Holy Quran is not serving the cause of Islam. On the contrary it is providing the ammunition to the Qadianis to claim that Muslims lie about Mirza. It is very easy for a Qadiani to prove that this verse is in the Holy Quran therefore, the objection is false and is based on the false propaganda of the Muslims against Mirza.
Mirza as was his habit to distort the teachings of the Holy Quran changed the shape and grammar of one word for his concoctions, he has changed one word " Yarhamakum" to " Yarhama Alakum". This is the real distortion he has performed to this verse of the Holy Quran in his efforts to change the meannings and the grammar of this verse.
To understand this verse and expose the lies of Mirza it is necessary to understand the preceding
17:7 [And We said:] "If you persevere in doing good, you will but be doing good to yourselves; and if you do evil, it will be [done] to yourselves." And so, when the prediction of the second [period of your iniquity] came true, [We raised new enemies against you, and allowed them] to disgrace you utterly, and to enter the Temple as [their forerunners] had entered it once before, and to destroy with utter destruction all that they had conquered.
This relate to the destruction of second temple and Jewish statehood by Titus in 70 AD.